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Post Date June 5, 2005 @ 8:59 AM
 g.o.shops/POST ON PAGE 2 now please
 RE: the good old shops Stamford
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 Old Stamford Shops
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 SHS "oldgirls " remembered
 Harveys Top & Bottom shops
 SHOP COMPETITION/spot odd one out
 HARVEYS Corner Cafe
 Where was BOOTS?
 Shopping/bean pods & sweets
 SHOPS: Was it NIX?
 SHOPS/Boots:Ennals family
 Shops/First ice-lollies?
 SHOPS: Dolbys
 SHOPS/tiger nuts were tasty
 FISH SHOPS/Help me Clem!
 MR BONEs Fish Shop/Penny lollies
 SCOTGATE was such a busy area
 RE: the good old shops Stamford
 SHOPS/Cow Shed makeover
 SHOPS & Fishermens pub Lord Nelson
 SHOPS/Matey Wade's wet fish shop etc.
 GOOD OLD SHOPS/mssge fr Daphne
 SHOPS/Moulds (Butchers)
 SHOPS/Ironmonger Street
 SHOPS/Ingthorpe dairy?
 SHOPS/Dairy mssge for John
 SHOPS/Ingthorpe Dairy
 SHOPS/Les Shotbolt Ingthorpe
 SHOPS/Tinwell church vicars
 SHOPS/Tinwell church
 RE: the good old shops Stamford
 SHOPS/Tinwell vicars
 SHOPS/ singalong with Clem
 SHOPS/send for buses!
 SHOPS/Allis Chalmers hampers
 Woodcocks/tea and cakes
 Woodcocks/mssge John Freear
 Parsleys suit of armour
 Woodcocks/reply from John
 Shops/Parsleys Glenda may know
 Shops/armour Glenda knows!
 Shops/Internat manager & staff
 RE: the good old shops Stamford
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 Shops/Suit of armour
 Shops/Clem removes egg
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 International/Eayrs grocery
 Shops/Mr Ingram/Mr Sharman
 Shops/International staff
 SHOPS/Clem I was errand boy
 Shops/Ann's Mum & Dad
 Shops/mssge for Clem
 Shops/overhead pulleys
 Shops/Maypole at No. 9
 G.ol shops/Woodcocks & Parsleys
 g.o.shops/those cakes kept me going
 g.o.shops Tyler's cake shop
 RE: the good old shops Stamford
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 g.o.shops/wire cash systems
 good old shops/Boots
 good old shops/Mr Slaymaker
 good old shops/Woodcocks bakers

June 5, 2005 @ 8:59 AM Reply  |  Email  |  Print  |  Top

I can remember standing in The Maypole shop in my home town.  I was not really tall enough for the top of the counter but I could see what was going on.  The shop assistant cut off a portion of butter with two wooden butter pats and then weighed it and patted it into shape.  She then wrapped it carefully and jotted the price down on a folded back piece of the wrapping paper.  Bacon was cut on the bacon slicer.  You chose the piece of bacon you wanted slicing and then were asked for the thickness of the cut you wanted.  The bacon was placed on the machine and pressed firmly up against the slicer. The machine then whirled backwards and forwards slicing the slices and the assistant placed each slice in turn on the greaseproof paper until you had enough slices.  She then wrapped the slices into a neat little package.  The sugar had to be weighed into a nice blue bag using a scoop.
While you were standing their waiting for all this to happen you could look at the tiled walls, which had picture tiles inset into them.  I can't remember what the pictures were but I think the words MAYPOLE were quite prominent

Editor's note: Do you remember the Maypole?  What about those other good old shops?  The bakers, the seed shop, the ironmongers and the wool shop?  Have you a memory you could share with others?
The post office, the village shop.  See also THAT STREET for shop items.

James Kudlinski
November 2, 2005 @ 2:17 PM Reply  |  Email  |  Print  |  Top

I recall 7 grocers in the High Street in the early 1960`s. The Co-Op, George Masons, Parkers Worthmore Stores, International, Home and Colonial, Maypole and Eayrs.
Kate: Anyone have more details of these shops?

March 25, 2006 @ 10:39 AM Reply  |  Email  |  Print  |  Top

What about "Fosters" in the high street, I remember my first pair of long trousers "grey flannel's" brought from Fosters in the high st. I aged about 5 years when I put them "long trousers at last" by the way I was about 13 at the time.
Ed: Yes I remember Fosters now you say.  Also Burtons on the other side of the High Street, where you could have a suit madeup.  It felt like going into a chapel when you walked in there with ushers coming towards you.

March 25, 2006 @ 11:10 PM Reply  |  Email  |  Print  |  Top

Yes Ed, Burtons I used to work at "Hunters" that was on the other side of the road, I remember "Ann Hillary's" ladies clothes shop on the corner near St Johns Church, before Currys moved there, & what about "Mussons" the sweet shop in the high St,  Oats & Mussons furniture shop, Rollings & Williams fruit & veg, Warners paper shop etc next to St Michaels Church, Hardinghams sports shop,& Woodhouse furniture shop in Ironmonger St, J.H.B.Norths at the top of Ironmonger St, Dennings in Broad St, Mrs Allens, also in Broad St,  we would get our lemonade from Mrs. Allens. Does anyone remember any of the above shops?
Ed: Yes, and I remember St Michael's Church well as a church, before it was converted into the shops.  I attended a wedding there.  It had a marvellous  very wide central aisle.  Anyone else remember any of the above?

David king
September 25, 2006 @ 11:26 PM Reply  |  Email  |  Print  |  Top

Hi James, My mother (Margaret) is the daughter of John & Molly Earys who owned the tailors shop to which you refer. We very often stayed there whilst my father who was in the airforce was between postings.

Geoff Espin
September 9, 2008 @ 8:03 PM Reply  |  Email  |  Print  |  Top

The 'ushers' in Burtons were not so much ushers as vultures waiting for their next kill (commission).  Some were very pursuasive (Roly Wilson) who would have an overcoat on your back before you could blink.  I even bought a made to measure in a nice birds-eye material that was made up with the cloth back to front!

Dave Leishman
September 15, 2008 @ 7:46 PM Reply  |  Email  |  Print  |  Top

Yes Burtons! I had a made to measure suit from them in the early 60,s. What a disaster that was, the trousers were  realy nasty with turn ups about 6" high. I wore the suit a few times then chucked the trousers and wore jeans with the jacket instead. We must have been too polite in those days because today I would just throw the whole thing back in their face.

roger hardingham
September 19, 2008 @ 9:22 PM Reply  |  Email  |  Print  |  Top

I had a lovely suit made here for my friends wedding i 1972! David James was the son of my manager at W H smiths in Huigh street. I started here as a boy in1968. Roger

Joan Stafford
December 25, 2008 @ 9:14 PM Reply  |  Email  |  Print  |  Top

My husband has asked my to reply about Burtons - that was the "in" shop for the Teddy Boy era. He had his first long black drape jacket, and beige trousers made there. Jacket was down  to his knees with a link button, felt like cats whiskers until his father saw him and thought he looked like an out of work parson.  Three years in the Army cured him of that fashion .Happy days

Daphne Hawkins
February 13, 2009 @ 5:14 PM Reply  |  Email  |  Print  |  Top

Yes I remember the old Stamford shops!   What a wonderful service they gave us all and  always willing to please.
I can remember my parents  taking me to Oats and Mussons to buy my High School Uniform when I was 5 years old in 1936.
How about the "Penny Bazaar"   Always good for a browse and to kill a little time whilst waiting for the bus.
I worked in Boots when I first left school in 1947. So different then.  I worked until 6pm. Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday, 1pm on Thursday, 6.30 on Friday and 7 pm on Saturday!  What a difference to now.
Hunting and Orlands the tobacconist was next door to Boots and Higgs tobacconists was in St John,s street.  Bakers the Ironmongers in St Mary,s Hill I could go on and on but what lovely memories.

john freear
February 14, 2009 @ 11:30 AM Reply  |  Email  |  Print  |  Top

Hallo Daphne,
any relation to the Hawkins of Belmesthorpe Grange. You left school the same year as I did.

Daphne Hawkins
February 14, 2009 @ 3:14 PM Reply  |  Email  |  Print  |  Top

Hi John
No relation.  My husband originates from Pinner in
Middlesex and I was born in Collyweston.
Do you remember our year at SHS Barbara Haynes,Jean Hudson, Shirley Allen, Ann Baker etc.   Have you seen Edward deSouza on "Coronation Street?"  
The de Souzas lived at Collyweston House after the Goddard and Holmes families.  Thecla(Edward's sister) was at school with us too.

john freear
February 17, 2009 @ 1:38 PM Reply  |  Email  |  Print  |  Top

Hi Daphne
Two I remember, Jean Hudson and Shirley Allen. I would think Marie Clarkson (pianist), Betty Curtis (married a Mr Bradley who owned Northfields Garage, (they emigrated to Australia a long time ago), Audrey Sharpe from Gt. Casterton might also have been near your year. Others wil no doubt pop into my head(nowdays mostly empty) head. If they do I will send them.

February 27, 2009 @ 9:49 PM Reply  |  Email  |  Print  |  Top

I consider myself to be one of those lucky people who was a Stamford 'child of the 50's'.
I also believe that I was fortunate to have a Grandfather (plus a number of other relatives) who ran a bakery in Stamford during years when there didn't seem to be any worries about 'credit crunches' or 'fat cats' and people worked hard for what they had and were more at peace with the world.

My Grandfather was Arthur Harvey who had premises at 24, Scotgate which was known as the 'Top Shop' and also at the corner of Scotgate and All Saints Street, which was known as the 'Bottom Shop'. The bottom shop also incorporated a cafe and b&b.

As a young child with both my parents out at work, I spent many very happy hours in the safe custody of my Grandmother and various Aunts at both of these shops where I observed all the various elements of the bread and confectionary making and selling process, which at the time seemed to be a very labour intensive job with a number of people involved one way or another 24/7.

It was fascinating to watch the dough being made and 'kneaded' for what seemed hours on end and then separated into a multitude of black tins which were placed in a huge oven which made the bakehouse like a sauna.

The end result however was amazing. When the ovens were re opened and the bread retrieved on huge long spatula type implements and thrown onto the worktops scalding hot, the smell was mouthwatering.

The bread and cakes were then sold in both the 'top' and 'bottom' shops and one of my uncles would also have the job of delivering the bread around Stamford and the surrounding villages while it was still fresh.

Of course there were many local characters who worked or frequented these premises but that is another story!!

Happy Days!

Kate. Thanks so much for that Martyn.  Harveys fed half the town with their wonderful bread.  Thoughts of those bread rolls and iced buns kept us going all day at school!

June 6, 2009 @ 1:05 PM Reply  |  Email  |  Print  |  Top

I wonder if anyone out there remembers when the shops held a competition whereby you had to find something hidden in their window which they did not sell.
I remember us standing for ages looking behind all sorts of items in the window where these items would be hidden.
A lot of the shops in Stamford took part

Clem Walden
June 9, 2009 @ 1:32 AM Reply  |  Email  |  Print  |  Top

Hi- Martyn have a copy photo of the bottom shop that was on the corner of All Saints street photo is dated 1950 signs on the shop read as follows: "Harveys Corner Cafe"  "We serve Turog best brown bread"
The original photo was sold on the internet via ebay the photo shows the whole of All Saints street including Wright & Sons buchers that became Peter Johnsons later. When I was at the Blue Coat School that was then at the top of All Saints street I would call in to see Wendy Harvey who worked in the shop in the late 40s to get my half penny buns so would most of the Blue Coat boys. Fond Memories, I will have to let you look at the photo sometime perhaps you will remind me next time I see you.

Clem Walden
June 12, 2009 @ 2:25 AM Reply  |  Email  |  Print  |  Top

Hi-Daphne, I remember all those old shops: Oats and Musson's, Hunting and Orlands, Bakers, Higgs. When you worked at  Boots 1947 where was the shop? was it opposite Fosters in the High St? unfortunately my memory fails me re:Boots. Remember Dolby Bros, that occupied the site where the present Boots stands, next door was Hunters Tea Store opposite Burtons, I worked there as an errand boy in 1950. Do you remember Mussons sweet shop, Rollings and Williams, Westmorlands, Eayrs, Ann Hillaries, Parishes, all in the High Street I can picture all in my mind but not sure where Boots was? Hope you or someone can help me?

June 13, 2009 @ 8:48 PM Reply  |  Email  |  Print  |  Top

Hello Betty, I think that was Coronation Year, remember looking in all the shops, don't remember who won, wasn't me.
Do you remember when the sweets went off ration and you couldn't buy any for love nor money.  There was a house opposite Bartons Bus yard and the lady there sold sweets from her front room and I got some raspberry drops.
Also Ron Good in Scotgate used to sell some bean pods we used to suck, can you remember those, they were very sweet?

June 14, 2009 @ 12:12 PM Reply  |  Email  |  Print  |  Top

Hi Joan
I did not win either.  It probably was the Coronation Year.

I remember Ron Goods shop by St Johns School with its own wooden counter, it had a smell of its own and I know we did used to be able to get a few sweets from him but I do not remember the pea shoots only the liquorice roots.  I remember my mum used to be able to get us some sweets from the shop on the other side of the road from Rons further down towards Barn Hill.  I think it is now a Model Shop.

June 14, 2009 @ 3:04 PM Reply  |  Email  |  Print  |  Top

Where was `Boots`?
According to Ken Ford in his excellent book on Stamford `Who Traded Where` Boots came to the town when it took over the chemist shop of Selby Ennals at 70 High Street in the 1920s. In the 1950s Boots expanded to No:69 the old Piper`s Penny Bazaar shop (now Oxfam) and the in the 70s moved everything to Nos: 66-67 when Dolby`s vacated it to move all their business to West Street. Hope this helps.
Does anyone know if Miss Dorothy Ennals, who taught at Stamford School in the 1940s was related (daughter?) of the chemist

June 16, 2009 @ 9:10 PM Reply  |  Email  |  Print  |  Top

Hi, Betty, they were not pea shoots, they were like a big bean pod, my Mum said they were what camels ate.  Didn't believe her, too sweet for camels. Anyway no camels in Stamford.
Also did you remember the wet fish shop opposite St.Johns School.  On hot days he used to sell lumps of coloured ice for 1d.  Bit fishy but lovely to suck on.  Suppose they were our first ice-lollies.

Roger Partridge
June 16, 2009 @ 10:52 PM Reply  |  Email  |  Print  |  Top

Dolbys closed High Street shop in early 1968, I worked there for a week in school holidays (Easter) helping clear shop out. The printing side of the business had been in West Street since about 1959. A  small retail area was formed out of part of works which actually adjoined West Street. This shop only sold stationery items though, possibly more business than personal stationery from what I recall.

john freear
June 17, 2009 @ 11:45 AM Reply  |  Email  |  Print  |  Top

I am replying to both Joan and Betty. Scotgate was quite a thriving little area of small shops. Holmes , Nix's, Ron Goods have been mentioned. There were others. Bomber Walsh (opposite Ron Goods) was one, Beals fish shop (same side as Rons) Frisbys fish and chips, Help me!!! there must have been others. Clem will know.
Those things which you sucked and were sweet were probably locust beans. Holmes sold them along with "tiger nuts" (dont ask me what they were but they were quite nice and tasty) the last time I saw these and I might add I bought for old times sake was in Hunstanton about 20 years ago. Unhappily I no longer hd the teeth for them but they were still lovely!!!
Kate: Hi John.  Nice to have you back on the panel.

john freear
June 17, 2009 @ 11:56 AM Reply  |  Email  |  Print  |  Top

Another thought, perhaps I am older than you joan and the wet fish shop you referred to opposite St johns School might well have been Mr Beale who , and here I may be quite wrong,I think took Frisbys fish and chip shop over when they moved into premises which had been Roberts cow parlour on the opposite side of the crossroad towards the police station, later became Stan's fish and Chip Bar.  Help me Clemmy!!!!!

June 17, 2009 @ 12:11 PM Reply  |  Email  |  Print  |  Top

Hi Joan
Yes I remember the ice lollies made at the Fish Shop  It was Mr Bone and we used to pay him a penny for them.

The choice was get the school bus or buy a penny lolly and walk.

I do not remember the bean pods.  I will ask my Mum though if she does as she is still alive at 89 and has all her memory intact

June 19, 2009 @ 2:58 PM Reply  |  Email  |  Print  |  Top

Yes, you are right John, they were Locust beans, that has been worrying me for years.  Also another shop, Moulds the butchers, sawdust on the floor.  Mr.Smith (where the computers shop is) little general stores, Flanders (florist) Mr.Vine (hairdresser) Dexters (garage) that was Colin Dexters Dad.  What a busy area that was, also it was the Great North Road, with Army Lorries - both USA and British.

June 19, 2009 @ 3:44 PM Reply  |  Email  |  Print  |  Top

Years ago, before the corners were taken off on Scotgate, Mr Garratt had a barbers shop on the corner diagonally opposite the school and Felix Vines had one opposite the school in West Street, as some one noted, Mr Frisby had a fish shop in North Street and another Frisby, a relation I think had one in West Street, Mary Frisby I think, which she then moved up near the YMCA, Mary was a lovely lady, and we were all her boys.
Back to Scotgate there was the Black Bull that my gran'dad ran opposite Mr Newton's shop, then the butchers, Dexters garage, when you think about it, that corner was a thriving area of town.
this is why we love our town.

Clem Walden
June 19, 2009 @ 5:35 PM Reply  |  Email  |  Print  |  Top

Hi-John Mrs Beal at the fish shop  had  dark black hair tied up in a sort of bun, Frisbys was as you say in North St. Jack Frisby took it over but I agree it was Roberts Cow Parlour, Mary Frisby ran the fish shop next to the old Bluecoat School by the "Wheatsheaf Pub" in earlier times I believe both Jack and Mary also had the fish shop in Broad St. now the "Model Fish Bar, I believe the wet fish shop opposite St Johns School was Bones as Betty has said, Paulys I believe also had a shop on the cross roads, Newtons accumulators, Felix Vines hairdresser if you wanted a short back and sides, or Garretts on the opposite side of the road, and of course Newton Flanders next to the Crown and Woolpack Joe Johnson was the landlord in the late 40s and was still their in the late 50s the Star and Garter pub that was next to the Fire Station. and not forgetting the Black horse that was opposite the White Horse in Scotgate, Dexters Garage with the old pump that Alf Dexter would swing out across the pavement, Dave Boons parents took Dexters over about 1954? Harveys bakers "Top Shop" and "Bottom Shop" were also in scotgate. Hope these will jog your memory I may well have missed a few if so perhaps someone can help the pair of us.

Clem Walden
June 19, 2009 @ 7:22 PM Reply  |  Email  |  Print  |  Top

Hi-John, I need to make a correction, I said the "Black Horse" opposite the "White Horse" As I posted my script I realalised I had made a mistake, It was the "White Swan" not "White Horse" I also remember a Butchers near "Newtons" but can not remember the name? Remember visting the Star and Garter one Saturday with a couple of friends who were on their way to the Pictures, I had no money so could not go but decided I would find some empty bottles to return and get the usual refund of 2-3 pence per empty. I went through the back gate into the yard of the Star and Garter and took 4 empty stout bottles out of a grate that was full of empties, then I proceeded to the front door knocking on the hatch of the off licence. When the landlady opened the hatch "I said Dad told me to bring these bottles back" the landlady in a loud voice  shouted "Tinker" your Clems hear with 4 empty Stout bottles, what a mistake I had made I did not know my Dad was in there neither was I aware he never bought bottles of Stout from the Star and Garter. I had to explain where I had got the bottles from, Dad was not very happy with me I never went to the pictures that day or for the next week I was about 11 or 12 at the time and well remember feeling so ashamed of my actions and so upset that I had let my Dad down. Fond Chilhood Memories.

john freear
June 20, 2009 @ 10:23 AM Reply  |  Email  |  Print  |  Top

Don't remember Frisby's having the fish shop in Broad St. They certainly had the shop in West St which Jack Bone took over. The cow shed in North St. was specifically altered for Mr Frisby in about 1947/8, Harry Kelham was the architect but I dont remember the name of the builder.

June 20, 2009 @ 8:47 PM Reply  |  Email  |  Print  |  Top

For many years in the 30s and 40s the Fish and Chip Shop in Broad Street was owned by a Mr. Boon (not the Mr.Bone who had the shop in Scotgate).  I was at school with his son Roy Boon.
The Star and Garter pub in Scotgate was the smallest pub in Stamford - about 10 feet by 20 feet.  I think you can still see the outline in the Car Park. Does anyone remember the Lord Nelson pub in Red Lion Street.  Kept by a Mr. Flynn it was very popular with local fishermen. I remember behind the bar was a large stuffed fish in a glass case.
The butcher`s shop in Scotgate near The White Swan (known as The Mucky Duck) was owned by Peter Johnson as a branch of his shop in All Saint`s Street.

June 21, 2009 @ 1:49 PM Reply  |  Email  |  Print  |  Top

I can remember the Nelson, though I never drank in there.  The fish Behind the bar was a huge pike.  When it closed in about 1959/60ish I worked for a building firm, Clarke and Belton's, who cleared the pub out and every thing went up to the Brick yard tip fish, cases fittings and all,
if only ebay was about then!
I worked for five years with Clarke and Belton's in one off the most happy and friendly places I have ever worked

June 23, 2009 @ 3:42 PM Reply  |  Email  |  Print  |  Top

Hi Clem. I am back from holiday!
Yes I remember all the old shops you mention.  When I was at Boots it was next to Hunting and Orland the tobacconist. Currys was on the corner where Harways is now but can't remember if there was another shop between them.
I remember the old sweet shops! Also Mr Green's at the bottom of Silver Lane and Mrs Crick's on St Mary's Hill  and another one next to Mr Crine the dentist who was next to the town bridge..  Do you remember the old 'Lincoln Creamery' quite a meeting place in my day.. There was also a little Ice Cream Parlour at the bottom of Ironmonger street and Mr Dear the shoe shop on the opposite side of the road next to a grocer's shop - name I've forgotten.
I also remember "Matey Wade's" wet fish shop in Cheyne Lane.  Fish was a great treat when Mum went to the market on Fridays and brought fish from Mr Wade's back for tea.  He also sold game, rabbits etc.
The two Mr Dicks,brothers, had their tailors shop on the corner of St Mary's Place and St Mary's Street.  They used to go to Leicester to buy suit lengths and clothes.   They would call on my father to see if there was anything he liked which they could make up for him.  I also remember Mr Parish giving a wonderful service in that line too.  Not much "off the peg" in those days.
Back to High Street - Miss Chapman's ladies outfitters was somewhere opposite Boots in my day and another ladies outfitters somewhere near where Costas is now.  They sold beautiful hats too!   Not to mention the Co-op drapery annd grocery shops with the little money pots travelling backwards and forwards on wires to the office.   This was the case too in Cumberlands grocers in St Martin's.   They used to collect my mothers grocery order at Collyweston on Mondays and deliver on Thursdays.  Mr Coley carried on this service when he took over the shop.  Mr Morley had his butchers shop on the corner of Water street and St Martin's joined onto "The Anchor" which is now Pizza Express.
Wehen I was at SHS a bakery up St Martin's used to supply the ha'penny buns for elevenses.  Again the name fails me.
Better stop now - I could ramble on with this nostalgia lark for ever!   Please get it touch if I can help further or add to this!
Best wishes.  Daphne.   (Grahams mum}

Clem Walden
August 20, 2009 @ 9:40 PM Reply  |  Email  |  Print  |  Top

Hi-Daphne, hope you had a good holiday, thanks for confirming where Boots was, I remember Curry's that later became Ann Hillaries before Harways, I also recall the other shops you mention, the Lincoln Creamery belonged to John Regis's who started Sally Moorlands supermarket,the other ladies outfitters you mention that was where Costa's is now was Froments I believe, Cumberlands grocers in St martins I well remember also Morley the butcher on the corner of Water street, I think before it was Morley's it was "Mould's" butchers, I may be wrong perhaps someone could confirm if my memory is still in tact?  its great to read everyones wonderful memories

Joan Stafford
August 21, 2009 @ 5:58 PM Reply  |  Email  |  Print  |  Top

Hello Clem, I think you will find that Moulds (Butchers) was in Scotgate. Remember lots of sawdust on the floor, but then I was very young then, could be wrong.

Clem Walden
August 24, 2009 @ 1:41 AM Reply  |  Email  |  Print  |  Top

Hi-Joan I think you are correct "Moulds" Scotgate, the old memory plays a few tricks on me these days, good thing there are still plenty of others to help out, thanks for the correction I wasn't sure. The other day I was asked in the High street by a local if I could remember the cafe that was on or near the corner at the  bottom end of Ironmonger street? I remember it as my gran would take me in when I went to the Town with her 1945/7 but can not remember the name of it? need help do you know? or anyone out there? Kind Regards Clem.
Hi Clem.  Was it something like Anglia Dairy or Lincoln Creamery? Not sure think it may have also sold milk? Kate
Help needed on this one. Stetch those memories out there!

John Tyers
August 24, 2009 @ 10:54 PM Reply  |  Email  |  Print  |  Top

Think it was "Ingthorpe Dairy"; on another thread I recently said after 70 odd years, I only lately knew just where is the hamlet of Ingthorpe!

Clem Walden
August 25, 2009 @ 2:19 AM Reply  |  Email  |  Print  |  Top

Hi-Kate, "Dairy" rings a bell and I think they did sell milk. Thought the  the Lincoln Creamery was in the High street? but not sure perhaps John Freear may be able to help on this one? or whoever else is out there. seem to remember it was decorated very light "white" or "cream" also think some one with the surname "Wright" had something to do with it, but again not sure? just hope some one can remember.

Clem Walden
August 25, 2009 @ 4:29 PM Reply  |  Email  |  Print  |  Top

Dear John, thanks for jogging my memory and putting me straight "Ingthorpe Dairy" thats the name thanks. You mention the "Hamlet of Ingthorpe" I have a little knowledge regarding this Hamlet as I did a fair amount of work for Mr Shotbolt who farmed "Ingthorpe farm" in the 1970-80s.Perhaps the Shotbolt family still farm it? the Hamlet itself consisted of a farm and cottages near Great Casterton, the parish of Tinwell included Ingthorpe and one can observe within Tinwell Church a renaissance monument 16th century that mentions various names including Rectors, there are also tablets in the nave 18th 19th century.In the aisle there is a memorial to several men who were killed in the 1914-18 war who lived at Ingthorpe and Tinwell.
I remember being told a story about  the Abbot of Peterborough who in the 11th or 12th century was involved in building of a hall at Tinwell I also remember being told Tinwell was granted Ingthorpe and the Church by a spurious charter of Wufhere of mercia dating 664  but apart from knowing where the "Hamet of Ingthorpe" is and the little I have scripted my overall knowledge is limited. Perhaps time for some research, or have you already done this if so I am sure the same would be of great interest to many.

Roger Partridge
August 25, 2009 @ 11:11 PM Reply  |  Email  |  Print  |  Top

Clem - Leonard (Les) Shotbolt who farmed at Ingthorpe died a few weeks ago aged 92. Until he retired he had farmed in partnership with his son Philip, but I don't know if Philip still farms there. When I was about 14/15 Les allowed a friend to keep an ancient and battered Ford 10 tourer at the farm, which we used to drive round the fields in.

John Tyers
August 25, 2009 @ 11:44 PM Reply  |  Email  |  Print  |  Top

Clem your comments following on from Ingthorpe about Tinwell church. Sadly I have never been inside but back in the seventies I was on the drawing board at good old long gone but not forgotten Allis-Chalmers.  One of the accountants was the late Eric Wilson, a very amiable gentleman who was Tinwell church warden.  In between jobs he asked me to redo a list of vicars dating way back to before the Norman conquest!  The original was centuries old and very tatty so I rehashed it in "Letraset" and the late Ernie Holt framed it to hang in the church.  I dunno if it still hangs there or has been superceded by something more modern but just as it struck me then, what other country in the world can boast of history dating back for centuries like that?

August 26, 2009 @ 8:04 PM Reply  |  Email  |  Print  |  Top

Hello Clem
I am reading all about Tinwell etc here and I think you might get some valuable information  from your Friday Night drinking partner (G.B) as he will be familiar with the history of Tinwell.

Clem Walden
August 27, 2009 @ 7:37 PM Reply  |  Email  |  Print  |  Top

Hi-Betty, I am sure G.B.will be able to tell me a great deal about Tinwell and I will ask him as you suggest, his memory is sound, but. one of our other  mates has great difficulty in remembering anything,  Ask your brother he will tell you,we all have a few laughs recalling all the old memories. 50s were great.

Clem Walden
August 27, 2009 @ 8:13 PM Reply  |  Email  |  Print  |  Top

Hi-John, blasts from the past "Allis-Chalmers" Eric Wilson and Ernie Holt, I will have to call in Tinwell Church to see if your list of vicars that goes back before the Norman conquest is still in tact, I do hope it is we seem to change to many things these days just for change sake, I always find this sad, change of course must take place for foreward movement we all understand this, but change simply for change sake should be avoided in my book. Would have to add I have not been in Tinwell Church for the past 15 years, last time was for a friends wedding 1994.

Joan Stafford
August 28, 2009 @ 7:15 PM Reply  |  Email  |  Print  |  Top

H.Clem, bet you don't remember this.  When we all worked at Allis Chalmers we had some heavy snow falls, so the buses were called in to take us home at lunch time. The bus company couldn't send the full amount of transport, so we all crowded into what ever was sent (wouldn't be allowed now, Health and Safety)And I can see you now leading us all in a sing-song.  We were all so young, we must have drove the older workers mad.  I know my dad wasn't very happy.And we all got a good food hamper at Christmas.  Happy days.

John Tyers
August 29, 2009 @ 5:36 PM Reply  |  Email  |  Print  |  Top

Your comments Joan about Patch's bus on the Essendine works service in winter.  Just one snowflake needed to be seen fluttering by the office window and the cry went up from one and all "Send for the buses!"  The works superintendant used to mutter "Get on with your work!" but it would not be long before his hand moved cautiously towards the telephone and a rousing cheer would go up at sight of the first Cream Bus entering the forecourt.  Strange but no matter what time of day it was and taking into account the intensity of their service, they always managed to find a bus to send from somewhere?
Happy days!

Clem Walden
August 29, 2009 @ 8:15 PM Reply  |  Email  |  Print  |  Top

Dear Joan, would have to say the Allis Chalmers Christmas Hampers were great, I cannot remember the sing song? but I am sure you are correct Clem would have done that then, and still does today, would have to say I have always been guilty of being a front runner or a bit of jack the lad? I remember your dad with fond affections a big strapping fellow a very nice guy, my dad was rather a small guy compared to him, but always made sure I was respectful to all my elders. at times of course I was out of order like most of my friends were. However Dad would correct me (in the good old fashioned way?) My Mum only ever saw me as a good boy, I was of course her baby (I can hear her now "not my Clem" of course Dad was always right he knew when I was telling a "porky" he must have been gifted? however I respected both of my parents and fully understood when my Dad said (NO) he meant (NO) never mind what my Mum said, sometimes my Mum was right and Dad would respect her view which in turn would save me from any punishment. What a lucky boy was I to have loving parents who taught me the true values of life and taught  me the lessons that many today have yet to learn. Fond memories of days gone by.

joan stafford
September 9, 2009 @ 3:46 PM Reply  |  Email  |  Print  |  Top

Does anyone remember Woodcocks cake shop,opposite Woolworths? I can't remember it, but a friend was talking about it and said you could go for tea and cakes upstairs.

Clem Walden
September 12, 2009 @ 1:37 AM Reply  |  Email  |  Print  |  Top

Dear Joan, "Woodcocks" the cake shop I can remember but do not recall the up-stairs area "tea & cakes"? however I understand  Woodcocks also had a shop in Peterborough that did have an
up-stairs area for "tea & cakes" so perhaps the Stamfords shop also had one.
After reading your posting I asked some old friends if they remembered "Woodcocks" they remember the shop like I but could not confirm about the up-stairs? wonder if John Frear can help? or anyone else out there, my only memory of the Stamford shop is the ground floor? which my Mum and Gran would visit to buy cakes.

September 12, 2009 @ 8:23 PM Reply  |  Email  |  Print  |  Top

Can anyone throw any light as to what happened to the Suit of Armour which stood on the stairs in Parsleys cafe as you went up to the restaurant.

john freear
September 14, 2009 @ 11:14 AM Reply  |  Email  |  Print  |  Top

I remember the shop but without being able to put a date to my memory. I cannot remember whether or not there was a tea room over it. Sorry cannot help further.

Clem Walden
September 14, 2009 @ 10:52 PM Reply  |  Email  |  Print  |  Top

Hi-Betty, good one "suit of armour" I remember it well, I know many of the personal family items were removed when the Parsleys left some of which Glenda has, the next time I see her I will ask her about that "suit of armour" she may be able to tell us both what happened to it?

September 15, 2009 @ 4:00 PM Reply  |  Email  |  Print  |  Top

The British Heart charity shop at the bottom of Silver Lane was divided into two from the 1950s to the 1970s (credit to Ken Ford again). James Smith & Son , Dyers and Cleaners, had the half nearer Silver Lane and Woodcocks had the half next to Country Casuals. I think they were there from the 60s to the early 70s when the family reired and sold their shops in Stamford and Peterborough. I don`t remember a tea room there but I`m not certain. I expect some people will remember the time when Country Casuals was The International Stores.

Clem Walden
September 18, 2009 @ 4:57 PM Reply  |  Email  |  Print  |  Top

Hi-Betty, had a word with Glenda about the "Suit of Armour" you will be pleased to learn (She still has it) and is seeking some restoration to the same, I told her you were wondering what happed to it, she remembers you well, Glenda said when the "Suit of Armour" was in place on the stairs she would dress it up as "Father Christmas" do you remember seeing it dressed up? I can't, anyway I am pleased that Glenda has it along with many other items from the shop, perhaps next time you are this way you could call in to Glenda's to have a look at it? Fond memories.

Clem Walden
September 18, 2009 @ 5:13 PM Reply  |  Email  |  Print  |  Top

Hi-Patrick, "International Stores" most will remember I feel sure. Do you remember who was the Manager, I seem to think it was Mac McCullies dad but not 100% sure? Mac and his family moved to Peterborough in the late 60s I believe. Do you remember Mac? One other name that comes to mind as the possible Manager was Mr Ingham who livied in the Essex road area his daughter Ann is still in the Town, next time I see her i will ask her, would be nice to find out who was in "charge" and perhaps who the staff were then?

Clem Walden
September 18, 2009 @ 7:05 PM Reply  |  Email  |  Print  |  Top

Hi-Patrick, you will be pleased to know "Suit of Armour" is still in Stamford, please see responses I posted to betty,

September 19, 2009 @ 12:59 PM Reply  |  Email  |  Print  |  Top

Hi Clem,  I think the name you were looking for is Ann Ingram (not sure of the spelling)  Ann had a brother who was a teacher and they still live in Stamford because his wife writes ro my Mum.  Correct me if I am wrong but I Ann married David but I cannot think of his second name at the moment but he lived on Lincoln Road.

September 19, 2009 @ 9:02 PM Reply  |  Email  |  Print  |  Top

Mr Jack MacCullie ( not sure of the name spelling) was manager of International Stores in St. Johns Street, which was the bigger of the two stores, him and his wife were real nice people.

I went to the catholic school in Broad Street,  and over the road, opposite Newgates, a Mrs Allen had a shop there, and I used to call in once a week for a penny ha'penny bottle of pop and a penny packet of broken crisps, as I remember, she was a cheery granny type figure to us children

September 20, 2009 @ 10:16 AM Reply  |  Email  |  Print  |  Top

Hi Clem
The Suit of Armour!!! I blew that one, didn`t I? Great embarrassment. Unreserved apologies. I heard the story in The Vaults many years ago. The conversation was about football hooligans and someone said `Did you hear about the suit of armour in the Central Cafe?` Apologies again. I shall never, in future, believe anything I hear in a Stamford pub at 10.30 pm on a Saturday night.
(Editor - any chance, please, of deleting that story before it haunts me?).
Hi Patrick.  Yes I have deleted the suit of armour abduction story in the interests of Stamford history!  Not your fault - but best to set the record straight.  Thanks for suggesting the deletion. Kate

Clem Walden
September 20, 2009 @ 9:10 PM Reply  |  Email  |  Print  |  Top

Hi-Patrick, no opologies needed, made many mistakes/errors myself  on "Ancestor Gateway Forum" at times. Fortunatley for me Betty,Joan,John Freear + several others have come to my rescue and put me straight given me the chance to remove the "Egg from my face" such is life.
Kate:  Don't forget you can also access Stamford Memories Gateway by going to frontpage www.stamfordtown.com   easy to remember.
and you can see the soldiers!

September 23, 2009 @ 8:28 PM Reply  |  Email  |  Print  |  Top

I never knew Mr. McCullie at the International Stores but I have known the Ingram family for years. I was told (not in the pub!) that when the International Stores decided that the future lay in supermarkets and not in town centre grocery shops they changed the name of the company to Somerfield. Anyone know if this is true. If so, the firm operated in Stamford until a few months ago.  I remember Mrs.Allan`s shop, Syd. Her daughter Doris and I started at St.Augustine`s School on the same day in 193? and she is still in town.

September 25, 2009 @ 10:22 AM Reply  |  Email  |  Print  |  Top

I googled International Stores and this came up, It answers most of our questions:

International Stores started out, in 1875, with a single store in Bristol,
trading as J H Mills.

By 1900, when J H Mills become a limited company, there were 12 stores and the name 'International Stores' was in use.

In 1950, J H Mills changed its name to Gateway. From then the name 'Gateway' was mainly used for all of the company's new (supermarket-style) stores but 'International Stores' was retained for the traditional-style stores.

Gateway was taken over by Linfood Holdings in 1977 but International Stores were not, initially part of the deal (although many branches of International Stores closed at this time, or were re-branded as Gateway as a subsidiary part of the deal).

Linfood Holdings changed its name to the Dee Corporation in 1983 and then proceeded to acquire International Stores (along with other well-known names, such as Fine Fare and Keymarkets). All of the stores were then either closed or re-branded as Gateway. (The Dee Corporation changed its name back to Gateway Corporation plc, to match the store names, in 1988).

Between 1989 and 1991, over 100 stores were sold off to Asda and Kwik Save.

The firm opened the first Somerfield store in 1990. in 1994, Gateway Foodmarkets became Somerfield Stores.

Thus, if there's still a supermarket trading on a former International Stores site, there's a very good chance that it will bear the Somerfield brand name (although it could be Asda or Kwik Save) and, incidentally, be part of a multi-national group that includes the Carrefour chain in France.
Hi Syd.  Thanks very much for looking that up and sharing the information with us.  When I go in the new Waitrose I still "feel" as if I am in Somerfield.  Kate

September 27, 2009 @ 1:28 PM Reply  |  Email  |  Print  |  Top

I understand from Ann Ingram that her father worked for Eayrs grocery and not International

September 27, 2009 @ 2:17 PM Reply  |  Email  |  Print  |  Top

Thank you Kate I can remember Ann's Dad working for one of the Grocer Shops but thinking about it so did a Mr Sharman (Daphne's) dad  They lived up by the Rec. somewhere.  Can anyone help on this one.
Thanks Clem for finding the Suit of Armour

Joan Stafford
September 27, 2009 @ 4:14 PM Reply  |  Email  |  Print  |  Top

There was a Mr. Dartnell a Mr Rose and a Mr.Martin that worked for the International Stores.  Also in the office was Barbara (who is now Mrs.Bluff)
I used to take my list in on a Tuesday, have it delivered on Friday and pay on Saturday.  No heavy bags to carry. There wasn't the choice of food we have now, but there also wasn't the waste.
You bought your groceries from International, bread from Bakers, Meat from Butcher, veg from  greengrocers. how things have changed.

Clem Walden
September 29, 2009 @ 1:14 AM Reply  |  Email  |  Print  |  Top

Dear Betty,
               Thanks for reminding me about Frank Sharman, Daphne's dad, he was the Manager of "Hunters Tea Stores" that was in the High Street his son Howard is still in the Town they also had another sister
the family lived in Queens Street, I was an errand boy for Hunters Tea Store when Frank Sharman was the manager, I also worked in the shop on Saturdays and remember helping to bag the sugar in pound and half pound bags, before the present pre-weighted bags came in,  I spent many hours round the Sharmans  house in Queens Street, this would be 1951-53. The shop was opposite Burtons Tailors, each Friday Frank would load the errand boy bike up ready for me to ride straight out the shop front door (the bike had a front wheel steering lock on it) I arrived one Friday after school Frank opened the shop door I rode the bike out the shop and ended up going through Burtons window. Frank had forgot to take the the steering lock off. Burtons were not very happy, but Frank Sharman sorted the damage out, he was a great guy, and would take me out with him and his son on fishing trips to Wansford. great memories.  Nearly all my old mates and friends were errand boys in those days. and most also had early morning paper rounds before they went to school. Not many errand boys to-day most supplies are ordered via the internet and delivered by vans.

Ann Turner
October 5, 2009 @ 11:40 AM Reply  |  Email  |  Print  |  Top

My Dad, Bill Ingram, worked for Eayrs the grocers at 8 High Street for over 30 years.  He delivered the grocery orders to Stamford people.  I worked there in my school holidays getting the orders together ready for delivery.  It was in the days when they ground their own coffee and blended their own tea.
Hi Ann.  Thanks for that.  Lots of Stamford people must remember your Dad and have been pleased to see him arriving with their orders.

Clem Walden
October 5, 2009 @ 3:31 PM Reply  |  Email  |  Print  |  Top

Hi-Ann thanks for reminding me about your dad at "Eayrs" hope you got paid for your work? I remember your dad well and should do! we all lived in the same area, must say though I forgot where he worked and got the spelling of his name wrong, sorry about that Ann. As I script this reply I can picture your parents in my mind, very nice people.  I also recall playing Captain Hook with Mick Steel, Tony Story, and Stewart Walpole on the green just outside your house one day when your dad needed to have words with us? must ask Ann do you recall that day long ago when I we were playing "Captain Hook" Fond Memories Ann.

Ann Turner
October 6, 2009 @ 12:11 PM Reply  |  Email  |  Print  |  Top

Hi Clem,  I'm afraid I don't remember the Captain Hook episode at all.

Gillian Hill
October 13, 2009 @ 1:49 PM Reply  |  Email  |  Print  |  Top

I also remember the Maypole shop from the 1950's mainly as my cousin Pam Stewart (Woods) worked there as a cashier.  Does anyone else recall the fascinating payment system where the bill and cash were put into a metal cylindeer which whizzed along on an overhead wire pulley system to the main cashier's office and any change would then be returned back to the counter for the customer?  I do also recall the tiling in the shop but not sure of the wording.
Hello Gillian.  I can still remember those wooden butter "pats".  It would be good to walk back in there and see the bacon coming off that bacon slicer.  Kate.

October 13, 2009 @ 9:51 PM Reply  |  Email  |  Print  |  Top

The Maypole was in the premises now occupied by the Edinburgh Wool Co. I seem to remember the overhead pulley system for payment was also used in The International Stores in St.John`s Street and the Co-Op at the end of High Street. Can anyone confirm this? I believe that the Maypole came to Stamford in the 1920s and stayed until the 1970s. Bit of a shock to think that the 1970s is now nearly 40 years ago!
Hi Patrick.  I thought perhaps Maypole was a bit further along - after Walkers bookshop?  Not quite sure.  Anyone help?

John Tyers
October 14, 2009 @ 6:59 PM Reply  |  Email  |  Print  |  Top

Seem to recall the one in the Coop Grocery in St Paul's Street.  Thought it was the wonder of the age - utterley fascinating!

Roger Partridge
October 14, 2009 @ 8:56 PM Reply  |  Email  |  Print  |  Top

According to Dolby's Directory, the Maypole was at 9 High St, between the International (previously Eayrs) (No. 8) and Petchells (formerly Parrish's, now Walkers) (No. 10). Can visualise the exterior and if my sense of smell memory is correct, there was always a pleasant aroma of cheese inside the shop.

Don't remember the cash in a canister at Maypole, but do remember it at the Co-op.
Kate: Thanks for researching that Roger. Must have a look at those numbers on doors when I am next in town.

October 14, 2009 @ 9:04 PM Reply  |  Email  |  Print  |  Top

Maypole Grocery - you may well be right and maybe I have confused it with Eayrs` Grocers which I think was almost next door.
Kate:  Think you are probably right Patrick.  I must have a look at it again when I am in town.  The memory does play tricks - but anyway it was so nice inside there.

November 26, 2009 @ 9:34 PM Reply  |  Email  |  Print  |  Top

I have not been on this site before today. FASCINATING READING!
I remember Woodcocks Cake Shop in 1968 and 1969. I used to spend my pocket money on those sickly sweet Kenzel Cup Cakes. They were chocolate cases of various shapes, and filled with sweet synthetic cream of different colours. They usually had green vermicelli or jelly shapes on top. Mmmmm. I can picture and taste then now!

Do you remember the Mushroom Cakes in Parsleys? They were made of cake covered in marzipan, with a synthetic cream filling,

Kate:  Welcome Sue.  So pleased you decided to post to the site and that you found it FASCINATING ! We all like to share another's cake memories. Perhaps the people who were  serving those cakes like to read it all too, must be quite a nice job dishing out those little beauties and watching people peep in the bags to examine their choices.
  I used to like bread rolls for some reason - especially those with the icing on top.

November 27, 2009 @ 8:15 PM Reply  |  Email  |  Print  |  Top

When i was erand boy at the co.op butchers in1957,when delivering peoples weekend joints in the large basket on the front of the bike my first stop would be the bakers at the beginning of st pauls street on the right.There i would buy about four cup cakes filled with strawberries and jelly with some cream on top.god they were lovely,if skint i would buy rolls with with icing on them.The highlight of my week.Took my mind off the work..

Roger Partridge
November 28, 2009 @ 5:37 PM Reply  |  Email  |  Print  |  Top

Phil - that would have been Tyler's bakery, later taken over by Quantrells(?Chantrells) It was a favourite cake shop for many people.

Clem Walden
November 28, 2009 @ 11:45 PM Reply  |  Email  |  Print  |  Top

Hi-Phil, Now I understand why my mother always told Chicken Coston at the Co-Op her Sunday roast was delivered late? It was your fault eating all those cakes and buns? during your delivery round.

November 29, 2009 @ 4:11 PM Reply  |  Email  |  Print  |  Top

Hi Sue
I too remember the cakes from parsleys as my mum worked there for years.  The marzipan was green and shaped like petals.  Happy days

Tom Fitchett
November 30, 2009 @ 4:33 PM Reply  |  Email  |  Print  |  Top

Some of your correspondents have remembered the old wire cash systems in the old shops.  They may be interested to know that these systems were in operation in most of the Cooperative shops in the Midlands area in the 1930- 1950 period. The original patent was taken out in 1918 by William Alfred Edwards.  They were made in a factory in Stoke on Trent near the old city football ground called the Dart Cash Carrier Co. In the 1930,s with input from Lamsons, an American company they also developed the pneumatic system.  1939-45 they converted production to war work where my mother used to cook the dinners in the works canteen.  In 1948 they were taken over wholly by Lamsons and the systems were kept in repair until the mid 1950's
Kate:  Thanks for that info Tom.  Very good they were and watching them fly around filled in a few minutes as we waited patiently for the change.

David Leishman
October 16, 2010 @ 10:46 AM Reply  |  Email  |  Print  |  Top

Hello Peter,
It's the Boots connection that caught my eye. As Kate said it was just up the High st a bit from Red Lion Sq, on the right hand side. That is where I used to get my photos processed. A neighbour of mine in the village of Ryhall used to work there at that time his name was Mr Slaymaker and I always thought that he was a manager of some sort, he used to deal with the photo processing ( we are talking of the period late 50's early 60's) I wonder if you were aquainted with him?
Boots was located exactly opposite to the Stamford billiard hall and it being on the upper level looked straight in to the Boots staff room, so a lot of flirting took place between the smartly dressed Boots young ladies and the lads in the billiard hall. Happy days.

October 17, 2010 @ 8:10 PM Reply  |  Email  |  Print  |  Top

Mr Slaymaker is still around town. I met him in High Street a couple of weeks ago.
Post on page 2 now or will not be visible.  Thankyou.

pam lewis (nee balfour)
May 16, 2011 @ 12:22 AM Reply  |  Email  |  Print  |  Top

I worked at Woodcocks the bakers in 1968, the manageress was Joan Price, married to John who worked at Burghley  House.  Lovely lady called Netta also worked there, made costumes for an amateur dramatics society.  A wonderful shop to work in, my favourite was filling the shop window with delicious cakes on stands each morning. Georgeous fresh cream sponge drops, never seen them since.  Never been back to Stamford since my family left Wittering in 1969 but have never forgotten it.
Kate: Hi Pam.  Yes, loved those fresh cream sponge drops. Hope you will enjoy trawling the memories on here.  I get loads of messages from people who no longer live here but remember all the great things in Stamford.  Its expanded quite a bit on the outskirts but the central town area is much the same - we now have an
M & S. Morrisons and a Waitrose - I think the population has nearly doubled in size.